Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Comments to Antidepressant Articles

Antidepressants - An Introduction

You and Your Antidepressant

When Your First Antidepressant Fails

When Your Second Antidepressant Fails

Antidepressants for the Long Haul

12 comments:

  1. 2nd antidepressant...haha...Almost every antidepresant with everycombo of them with antipsycoticS and mood stabalizers and anti-anxiety...I am a rapid cyclining manic depressive, PTSD, anorexic. Most doctors would have trown me to the curb or even dug the grave for me i'm sure...luckly I have found the most patient understanding Doctor whosdtreated me 10 years with meds and therapy. She has had me hospitalized several times, got second oppions. She Has been frustrated. Ane I, I hAVE BEEN FRUSTRATED. i HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS i'VE LIVED THIS LONG. wHAT KEEP ME ALIVE IS MY 4 YEAR OLD SON i LOVE him GREATER THAN LIfE AT ALL TIMES. lIFE IS HELL, BUT i LIVE TO MAKE SURE MY SON'S LIFE IS NOT HELL.

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  2. Hi, Write2s. Many thanks for sharing this. You might want to ask your pdoc about dropping the antidepressant from your cocktail. I'm not an MD, but I make every effort to ensure that the mood-treatment articles on my site reflect the most current thinking in psychiatry - and there clearly is a lot of skepticism about prescribing an antidepressant - even with a mood stabilizer - to people with bipolar, especially those who rapid-cycle.

    Your pdoc may have a valid clinical reason, but you're entitled to demand a satisfactory answer.

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  3. I wanted to say, aw, sounds like shit to me. I think there are a lot of excellent facts in this article, but I can't help but feel like the person writing this has NO CLUE what it really is like for those of us who are still under the guinea pig feeling until the "right" drug comes by.... I was slightly offended when you, the writer, commented in parantheses about over ten years it can take to find the right med -stating that was rare...then what am I but a freak? It has been 20 years and I am still working as the guinea pig. I am labeled whatever they want to label me, knowing that I am actually major depression, but you know, I'm the one on the drugs, so really, does my comment count? My body, your study...it's not about cure, it's about lab work and progress, but for who? for what generation?
    I have been a good patient and I'm still drown in hopelessness. I didn't see you comment at all on Electro Shock Therapy, what about that? I'm ready to have the brain reset, and hell, what's a little memory loss? isn't that part of the problem? the memories?

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  4. BEFORE taking medication , TRY NATURAL ways, like natural medicine, exercising everyday for 1 hour (making sure you sweat), eat healthy-nutrition is very important- B-vitamins, C vitamin, calcium and magnesium, most of ALL understanding your condition 100% by reading about it from books and websites, THERAPY (CBT or Phycotherapy) itself is VERY HELPFUL! always do whats natural first.

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  5. After fifteen years of antidepressant (seroxat, prozac, effexor, mirtazepine, escitalopram), one after the other becoming ineffective, I'm now taking a combination of the last two, which are just keeping me going. It's not quite as hard to get through the day. I hate taking the AD's but the alternative is that I would probably not have survived. Thank you for this excellent source of information, I wish I had come across it before, it brings so much together in one place, thank you.

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  6. Lexapro is a permanent life long cure for any depression if survive treatment. I was told by a marriage counselor to request drugs for my OCD symptoms (checking, intrusive sad thoughts, previous eating disorders as a teen & heavy drinking-probably perpetuated by my father’s suicide in 1981 while he was on imipramine and many other psych med’s) I went to my husband’s pcp who never met me before. He gave me a depression self-test & diagnosed me with depression, then prescribed Lexapro & Rozerem since I had a terrible insomnia problem. He also decided it was a good idea to start kissing me and grabbing me in his office. The Lexapro did such a good job getting me up & doing things but I believe it also may have made me nervous because it raised my blood pressure from it’s usual 120/80 to 145/110. I was really up! I could drink twelve shots of straight liquor & still be walking around for hours. This was the busiest year of my life. I got 2 DUI’s 4 drunk in publics & an involuntary commit for suicide, attended 2 rehab’s, a hypnotherapist, weekly ASAP programs, all while working full time. During medical treatment I was seen by 3 psychiatrists 4 doctors & many counselors. Most of the follow up treatment involved numerous more drugs anti-buse campral Buspar. All of which I had to stop taking due to side effects-full body tremors and falling down. After the second DUI when I was also charged with a felony for pinching a police officers butt, I decided maybe I should stop Lexapro b/c I seemed to have developed some obsession with alcohol & I could see I was also becoming delusional. While in jail I requested no more medication for 1 week and was able to stop although the depression side effects of the withdrawal lasted about three months. I met many other women in jail for DUI’s while on Zoloft, Lexapro and Abilify & others for shoplifting on Zanax. My depression is 100% permanently cured. I no longer ever feel sad about my life. I have never killed anyone driving drunk. I didn’t kill myself. I am no longer in jail, I didn’t get my kid taken away from me. I am not in a mental institution, and I don’t have a lethal diastolic blood pressure of 110. No matter what happens in my life now, I am always hopeful and never depressed.

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  7. You have a lot of criticism for the status quo and the scary thing is it all makes sense and much of what you've said matches what I've experienced. So am I lost, destined to get worse and worse because I'm on antidepressants. I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. Besides the criticisms do you have any answers?

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  8. Hey, Eleanor. There are no easy answers, and I make that very clear. But there are options. The Recovery section has numerous articles on things you can be doing for yourself. Other sections give you insights into moods and behaviors. Plus there are talking therapies in the treatment section. Your antidepressant may have put you in the position for you to implement some of these practices. Again, no guarantees, but where you have choices you have hope.

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  9. I think this article is very funny because it is true. Bitter sweet and totally real. Psychiatry is using us as guinea pigs in essence. A little statistical evidenced based evidence and then they hand out these drugs as they seem like they only solutions that they can offer.
    But, Psychiatry is working in the dark. Drug companies and the love of money does not really help things. However, it has helped me. Medication that is. What didn't help was the years of taster/trial periods. Cognitive thought, stress levels,stress vulnerability, life situation all are real aspects to mental health which are always undermined by the medical model. We are human not lab tests. The latter often feels more fitting some days. In the U.S there is more of a humanistic approach from what I have been taught. This notion seems more fitting. Person centred care, mindfulness, and self empowerment is my mantra. When people have "strive" it can really be rewarding. Depression often takes this away and a stubborn fighting spirit and resilience can help a lot. The mind at war often does have ups and downs but it is that fight that enables us to continue and find for some ability to experience pleasure. I think this is more universal than an anti-depressant. However, sometimes when we are very low we need humanistic help from others, as well as encouragement, understanding and appreciation.

    Thanks

    PaGe

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  10. good information. i am a 25-year guinea pig. also have had ect, which caused long-term memory loss -- not worth the debilitating side effect. whenever i hear of anyone contemplating ect, i try to talk him/her out of it. but i never can, all are so desperate.
    I've taken ssri's snri's antipsychotics, mood stabilizers plus others that i can't even name. my hypomanic periods have been so rare (only two in 15 years) that i was diagnosed with treatment resistant mdd with gad. can't really fault the pdocs for that. (i went to one for 10 years and she never saw a hypomanic episode.)
    thanks for the good info -- i feel forearmed. what are these 'robust dopamine agents'? i am guessing cocaine is one. it's the only drug that ever made me feel good. amphetamines don't come close! only make me feel more agitated.

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  11. I fully agree with your article on psychiatry treating patients as 'guinea pigs' because they have not done enough research on the functioning of the brain...their remedy being to dish out these antidepressants! However what I would like to know is if after taking these antidepressants for years, is it possible to stop taking them completely without fear of any permanent damage being done to brain functioning!

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  12. Hello, very interesting this site and all the comments. I am the mother of a bipolar ll female who was diagnosed with the condition after going through post-partum depression that was no responsive to Lexapro. It's been a hell of a ride for 6 years. Two grand children later and still having to interveen in her life to keep those kids taken care of and the monetary support, well let's just say OMG! I do appreciate the website, we all need more understanding as I agree with glow20 about research. Let our voices be heard for funding and maybe when my grand-children grow up there will be something to explain why their mother is like she is.

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